Could You Survive An Unplanned Night Out in the Mountains?

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Snow cave. image: treehugger.com

In 2014, eight of my friends spent an unplanned night in the mountains in a rainstorm in Japan.  They spent the night out on a deep snowpack at about 1,600 meters (5,250 ft).  It was the worst night of the year to spend a night out.  There was rain, lightning, thunder, and temperatures of about 32F this night.

After they got home safe and had a few days to digest everything I asked them a few questions about their trip.  I wanted to know what gear they had with them, what they did that worked, and what gear they wished they had with them.

I ended up interviewing a few of them together.  The information they divulged is very valuable for anyone who spends time in the backcountry.  If you spend time in the backcountry, eventually, you’re going to spend an unplanned night out.

snow cave design
snow cave design

Me:  “What emergency gear did you have with you?”

Oscar:  “A synthetic puffy jacket, bivy bag, no extra food, first aid kit.”

Me: “What emergency gear did the the group have?”

Group:  “3 bivy bags, radios, 2 people had no puffy jackets, 2 people with spare gloves, some hand warmers, enough food to get through the night, only 2 headlamps, lighters, hand sanitizer gel (flammable, good for starting fires), People from Finland, multi-tool with saw, several first aid kits, gps, maps (but we read them wrong), compasses, altimeters.”

Me:  “What worked well in keeping you all safe that night?”

Oscar:  “Having a fire.  It was something to keep you occupied, to get you going, to keep you motivated.  And it gave off great light.  The light greatly improved the physiological mood of the group.  And the fire really helped pass time and gave you something to do.  We were constantly gathering firewood and tending to the fire.  Focusing on keeping the fire going avoided sitting around and thinking dark thoughts.”

snow cave living
snow cave living

Me:  “What did you do for shelter?”

Oscar:  “For shelter we dug a deep snow pit, about 5 feet deep.  We used our skis and poles to create scafolding for the roof, then we used tree branches on top of the skis and poles to complete the roof.  In the shelter we made a snow bench covered in branches so we could sit and huddle up together in the shelter.  I slept a bit, about 30 minutes or so.”

Me:  “And that shelter worked well?”

Group:  “Yeah, it worked well enough, but we were still wet just from being out in the rain.”

Another snow shelter technique.
Another snow shelter technique.

Me:  “What worked out there?  What behaviors kept you guys safe that night?”

Group:  “Communication.  We told stories, checked in on each other a lot.  If someone was quite for too long, we’d come in close to him and ask him how he’s doing and make sure he’s ok.”

“No one ever complained about anything.  No negative talk whatsoever because in those situations it’s key to stay positive and not let negative ideas seep into the group’s mentality.”

“Good team work.  It came naturally.  As soon as something had to be done, someone stepped up and did it.”

“Sharing.  We all shared our resources together.  We shared the bivy bags as blankets, body warms, headlamps, food, water.”

“I think we did a good job of delegating duties.  We didn’t have a leader, we all just took on duties and got them done.”

“8 people pooling gear was key.  If we’d have been only 2 people with missing gear, it could have been worse.”

Fire on snow.
Fire on snow.

Me:  “What would you have done differently in that situation?”

Oscar:  “I would have brought Nalgene bottles instead of bladders.  That would have made water transfer much easier.  Having someone on water duty full time would have been good as well.  We didn’t make enough water.  We could have made a lot more water with that fire.”

John:  “A bigger snow cave would have been nice.  Our fire was near the cave and it was amazing how much that fire melted our shelter away.”

Me:  “What will you bring on your next backcountry ski trip that you didn’t have this trip?”

Group:  “Headlamp, small thermos with hot sweet drink, big puffy jacket, extra big mits, extra water, medical kit, extra lower body clothing, extra upper body clothing, large garbage bags.”

Me:  “What mistakes were made that lead to spending your night out?”

John:  “We had a loosely planned objective.  I didn’t use GPS and maps to figure out where we were at the start of the trip and exactly how to get to our destination.  At one point we had to decide:  go back or try an unknown shortcut.  We all wish we’d have decided to go back the way we came.  We would have gotten back after dark, but we’d have always known where we were.”

 

The mountains of Japan. photo: snowbrains.com
The mountains of Japan. photo: snowbrains.com

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This group did a fantastic job spending an unplanned night out.  We can all learn from their example.  The only injuries received was a bit of frost nip on a few fingers of one of the members.  Everyone else was just tired and cold when they got home.  It didn’t hurt that the people in this crew were from Sweden, Finland, Alaska, British Columbia, Wisconsin.  These guys are used to bad weather and cold.

“Personality wise, it was a pretty damn good group to be stuck with.” – Jen

 

“I wasn’t really enjoying it, but it was not too bad.” – The Fin


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8 thoughts on “Could You Survive An Unplanned Night Out in the Mountains?

  1. Stories about getting lost can be valuable. they add to your legend of the world. One saved my life I’m sure (as I wouldn’t have done well camping overnight in 1965). I was skiing alone when the fog came in. I lost all sense of direction. But I had heard a story of a group that skied off the Mt. Hood Glacier too far to skiers right, and was lost for several days. So I figured I had done the same thing and started to hike left. After a while I saw the lifts in the distance. Thanks for the personal experiences.

  2. Looks like the guy with a smile on his face in the snow cave has a pad. Nice! But why would you take a pad on a day ski in the backcountry if you were not planning to get caught out?

    1. Ah, my bad. That’s just a stock photo of a couple guys in a snow cave. There aren’t any photos from the night out my friend spent. thanks.

  3. What would you have done differently? Oscar: “We could use more water. We should have sent search parties out for water. We should have made aqueducts in the snow. We should have searched for Atlantis. That would have made the entire ordeal much better.”

    Loved the article, Miles. Keep up the good work.

  4. Oh man, it was quite a night! The most unbelievable moment for me was standing outside looking for firewoods while I heard thunder. Couldn’t believe it in the first few roars, but when I saw the lightning I had to accept it.

    Conditions were rough, none of our top quality 3-layer goretex kept us dry (soaking wet).
    I had cold during the trip, but couldn’t skip the day as it was our 2nd last on the trip.

    Buddy lost eyesight for a few days because of thick smoke coming out of the wet wood. If the “trip” lasted longer it would have been an issue. We had to walk elboes locked in Tokyo to prevent him wandering under the trafic x)

    Perhaps we’ll see you guys in JP next winter!

    -Fin

  5. A closed cell foam mattress or sit pad seems like an obvious addition. I very much liked the “What would you bring on our next backcountry trip?” answers. I would add that you should know that all members of your party have a bivvy bag and extra clothing so they don’t have to borrow yours when it gets cold.

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